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"Hi Dr. Kines... so during my walk this morning I thought how blessed I am to be able to feel good and exercise! You have no idea how much these simple things mean to me. I am doing very well. I've lost almost 30 pounds and I have been feeling fantastic! A few months ago, I started to have a sore throat & swollen lymph nodes but I knew just what to do and in no time at all, the flare was over! ALL OF THIS IS BECAUSE OF YOU!! I just wanted to send a note to let you know how very grateful I am. I can never express how much you have changed my life! God Bless You! I hope you and your husband are doing well. You are forever in my prayers.

- Ingrid W.

Is This How You Feel Now?

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You Feel Your Body Is Failing You...

  • You truly feel like a truck ran you over... with a deep fatigue that you can't explain to your loved ones.
  • ​You can barely get out of bed or walk from one part of your home to another...
  • ​Your lymph nodes hurt and you can barely move your neck...
  • ​You had to take medical leave or lost your job or are fighting for disability...
  • ​You keep getting new diagnoses and are fearful of more autoimmune disorders, fearing your future...
  • You have such extreme brain fog that sometimes you cannot finish a sentence...
  • ​You have anxiety at night or when you are in a car or on a plane, so you can no longer drive or fly... 
  • ​You can't get rid of the strange ear buzzing or ringing no matter what you do!
  • ​Sometimes you lose balance or get dizzy. 
  • ​The tingling or numbing unnerves and worries you and no doctor has found the root cause of it.
  • ​You feel like a failure mom or dad - can't be there for your children - you are just too exhausted.
  • ​The slightest exercise throws you back into bed (you used to be so athletic...)  - even a short walk.
No Matter What You Try, Nothing Seems To Help...
  • ​...Even though you have seen ten or even fifty doctors already...
  • ​Medications for your autoimmune disorder(s) do not seem to help
  • Diets (no matter how healthy) and food restrictions only take you one step forward 
  • ​Supplements are hit and miss and you feel they drain your resources
  • ​Alternative therapies may help for a little while, but then you are back to square one
  • ​Sometimes you just want to give up
  • ​You have spent years and thousands of dollars and yet you are still so sick
  • ​You feel alone, without hope, tools, support
  • ​No one seems to understand what you are going through, least of all your loved ones
If you feel like this, you are NOT alone. I have met many people just like you, and I am here to support you and help you, too, get your life back.
My name is Dr. Kasia Kines, and I am over the moon that you found me here.

Let me show you that you can recover from EBV. This is why I created this highly effective life-changing EBV Recovery Program!

- Dr. Kasia Kines

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"I highly recommend this program! It has kick started my healing into high gear. The information is priceless and will last a lifetime. If you are on the fence... do it! Best decision I made in the past 3 years I have been sick. "

- Rebecca Dawkins
"I want to thank you for all of your incredible work to put this course together. I've learned a great deal and I'm eating very differently. It's been eye opening and I'm able to tolerate foods that I was not able to tolerate previously!  You sharing your knowledge, expertise and commitment has changed my life. You have given me information and understanding to be able to stay on top of my EBV. You offered the most hope for me in the last 60 years. I now understand what my triggers are, can catch it early and reduce the feeling from "a semi-truck hitting me" to being hit by an old "Volkswagon bug”. You taught me exactly what to do. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.Thank you!"

- Barbara Maddoux, Registered Nurse, Doctor of Oriental Medicine, Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner (IFMCP)
"I truly believe the EBV Program saved my hearing and gave back my life! Prior to the course, my right ear had severe hearing loss with a true threat of going deaf caused by EBV. I believe Dr. Kasia’s Program helped me get healthier and stronger; thus, my hearing has improved dramatically. My neck is so smooth now. There are no swollen glands and no neck pain anymore. 

I now have more energy to do the things I like such as gardening or yoga. I now have a love of cooking too, which I used to dread. Furthermore, this awesome course has given me the skills to prevent EBV from reactivating and if it does, I know exactly what to do! 

Dr. Kasia is a compassionate practitioner who goes over and beyond to help her students. For example, she had each video transcribed so the class could have a printed copy, and I found this to be extremely helpful due to my hearing difficulties. This course is a lifesaver and worth every penny!!   

Thank you, Kasia!!"

- Sue Starling
"Dr. Kasia has literally changed my life. 

I quit going to medical doctors at a young age because none of them could ever figure out what was wrong with me. My parents wanted to pursue natural and holistic alternatives to solve my health puzzle. Some things that we tried worked temporarily, but nothing lasted. Even in the natural world, it seemed no one understood EBV. 

I’m now 28 and have been in an off-and-on battle with EBV for over half of my life. When I found Dr. Kasia, I was in a place of absolute fear that I was going to be sick and debilitated for the rest of my life. I now know that that is not true AT ALL, because EBV is the root of my chronic symptoms and Dr. Kasia has given me the tools to win the battle against EBV every single time. 

I feel empowered and hopeful for the first time in my life." 

- Rachel Adams

What Makes The EBV Program One-Of-A-Kind?

Welcome to the first ever successful evidence-based Program for EBV!

What is even more unique is that my practical, hands-on, and a whole-person approach to chronic EBV infection also honors your emotional and spiritual healing. Many in the EBV Hero community are empaths, highly sensitive individuals and healers.

While you are healing physically, this Program will also give you an opportunity to take a journey into a deeper spiritual healing, so you can shine your light and live aligned with your true gifts and passions as you reclaim your life and your health!
You will learn effective, simple, and doable action steps specifically for people like you who struggle with brain fog, chronic fatigue, and multiple chronic disorders because of EBV.

I know your pain, fears, challenges, and complications only too well, working with the EBV community every day. This is why I am on a mission to create a healing space and a new positive culture and community for people impacted by EBV. In fact, you will be part of the amazing EBV tribe we call EBV Heroes! 

This is also why I have worked closely with each group on weekly live Q&A coaching calls over the course of all the previous groups, and now you have access to ALL OF THEM - you truly have all the tools, support, and information you need to succeed. Not only that - I still provide live monthly check-ins, so you can have direct access to me with any questions you you still have.

The best part of your journey is that you remain in our EBV Hero community for life if you wish so - so you are never alone again. WELCOME HOME!

"Not only, always sick, but sicker than I had ever been in my life. My energy was nonexistent even though I would sleep sometimes 10 hours in a day. The sore throats, fever, ringing in my ears, vertigo and on and on. You name it, I had it. I went from doctor to doctor with absolutely no progress. I even had a Rheumatologist tell me I needed to accept my “new” life. He previously lost two patients to suicide from this disease because they couldn’t “accept” their symptoms. Given all of this, I was pretty skeptical when I took this program. Wow, was I wrong!!! One thousand percent wrong!! The information I learned from this program is invaluable to me. My symptoms have left almost completely and I was able to begin exercising again, which is the cherry on top! I now have the tools I so desperately needed to get my life back. Thank you Dr. Kines! I am forever grateful!!

- Ingrid W.

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"I've been so busy just catching up on my life 
from being so ill with EBV!
I feel better than I did before I was sick! 
I can't thank you enough for all the help.
 I haven't felt this good in a very long time.”
- Niko Barbera
What's In The Program?

You also Have Monthly Access Directly to Dr. Kines in the
Live Q&A Coaching Calls!

YES! This Means You Get to Talk to Dr. Kines Every Month!

Give Us Just 10 Weeks So That Your Story Can Be Just Like The Transformation & Healing Of Our EBV Hero Community...
Here Are Our EBV Heroes... This Can Be You Too!
"Today I was able to touch my left ear with my right hand! Now that may not sound like too much of a remarkable thing, but I haven’t been able to perform this action for months due to pain and inflammation in both my right shoulder and my right elbow. I am now looking forward to being able to touch my right ear with my right hand and therefore being able to wear earrings again." Kathy 
"Wow… this is what it feels to have a happy brain... and I’m going to continue to make it happy. This is the first time I went shopping. I actually went into a store and tried on clothes. I have not gone shopping in 6 months and I was not exhausted the next day! I feel like I am getting my life back." Sue 

"Here's an amazing thing. I weed for an hour a day. Before, I struggled to walk from the couch to the kitchen." Anna
"This has been so ground-breaking for me. I actually WOKE UP HAPPY today. I don’t remember the last time I woke up feeling like this. It’s been years." Rachel

"I slept soundly 2 days in a row! WOWSA!" Lisa

"Thank you for being our mentor and support. Many of us have found refuge here." Marina 
"Yesterday I read the Brain Power and I made sure to eat the right balanced meal in the right time frame. I was amazed at the energy I had in the afternoon. I usually don’t. I felt so good I caught up on errands and went to my church’s service. I hadn’t been to church for over a year because of my EBV!" Jane
"Anyone else is feeling the emotion of JOY? Strangest thing, started my Jumpstart Bundle last Wednesday and by Friday I was feeling Joyful...something I never feel?! Then Monday I had a dream (which I don't do much of) that left me feeling joyful after awakening? Loving it!!!" Andraia
"I wanted to let everyone know that I'm having more good days now than bad. Things are getting easier!! More energy and less pain and fatigue! I'm also digesting my food better - 2 poops every day instead of one. Dr. Kines' protocol works! Just be patient." Simran
"I feel soooo good on these supplements!" Susan
"I had so many muscle cramps and could barely walk before....yesterday I was dancing in the kitchen!"
"Dr. Kines... Since I've been so sick lately... I have been really discouraged. After watching JUST the 1st module... my spirits are much better! I feel empowered and hopeful. So excited to learn all the information available. Wow!" Ingrid
"“This is the first time in my entire life that I enjoy cooking. I always found it to be a chore and I hated it. I love the comment from Kasia that cooking healthy food is a way to decrease stress and is “me time.” I am gaining confidence in cooking and balancing my meals. Cooking now makes me happy!” Sue 
"I didn’t realize the anxiety EBV was causing me! The past couple of years I have been terrified when I’m riding in the car to the point when I didn’t think I could enjoy the road anymore. We are driving today and I’m not totally terrified and filled with constant anxiety! And I am not crashing!!" Rebecca 
"I was able to work in my flower garden for one hour. This is the first time I was able to do it since I was sick and I was not exhausted the next day. YEAH! And I do not remember the last time my neck and glands felt soft without pain on movement... I now know my symptoms of an EBV reactivation!!!" Sue 
"Thank you for giving me space to voice this, as I’ve never had someone who truly understands the impact EBV has emotionally. This group is one of the best things that has happened to me in a long time. The common ground we share is unmatched in my day-to-day relationships" Rachel 
"I am thrilled that I am feeling so much better than I was this winter. I look and act like my old self, which I was very very fond of. Putting in my big garden - veggies and flowers - didn’t think I could do it a few months ago!" Diana 

“I just wanted to share: I work only 2 days a month. I worked this last Saturday and Sunday and usually I’m so drained by the end of the day that I come home and go to sleep. I worked two days in a row, 9:30-5 and I left Sunday night and I still had energy. I came home, made dinner, cleaned the kitchen, watched a show with my daughter. And I woke up with energy today, not drained from the weekend like I normally would.” Anna
"Kasia Kines is an amazing teacher, and each day I see friends from my class improving. And I see improvements in myself. It is a remarkable journey I would recommend to anyone who has suffered long enough from Epstein-Barr Virus and wants their life back!" Janet

"Thank you so much for your dedication. I think a lot of us have not experienced someone fighting for us like you are. I am really blown away and so grateful for you and the work you’re putting into this program." Rachel
"I have been impressed with your compassion along with your professionalism. I know you are steering us in the direction you think best. You have more than lived up to what I was hoping from an expert. I can tell your heart is in this. ... I’m feeling triumphant, hopeful, grateful, and peaceful. My results with the last 5 weeks of Dr. Kasa Kines 10-week EBV program have been a squiggly line, with ups and downs, but have been consistently moving in an upward trajectory. Overall, I’ve been improving. A big thanks to the work Dr. Kines has done on this disease and making it her life’s work to help people suffering from EBV. I recommend her highly.” Jane 
Enjoy Our Expansive EBV Library!
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You will also have access to a vast library of about 60+ hours Q&A video and audio recordings that include weekly EBV Hero Spotlight (20minute+ one on one with one of our students!) and nearly 1000 delicious recipes...
“What you will learn with Dr. Kasia Kines 
will help you to be able to live 
your best life in the shortest time possible.  
What she is covering in 10 weeks 
took me 10 years to learn on my own.” 
- Nanette Puryear
Afraid It Will Not Work For You? 
It WILL: I Got You Covered!
Have you ever felt that you were doing everything right for your EBV and you were still not getting better? What do you do? It can be so demoralizing and depressing. But I teach all my clients and students: the virus is predictable, so never blame yourself for getting stuck with EBV - there is a reason why EBV is not budging despite your best efforts. And I cracked the code on what gets people stuck with EBV! First, this is why I am offering you this Program. Second, if you follow the Program and if for any reason you re still not moving forward, I have the answers and solutions for you too! 

Over the course of my work with EBV, both with clients and in my studies, I've discovered the four most common hidden causes that make the healing from EBV more difficult: toxic molds, heavy metals, confections and Wi-fi/EMF. Any single one of them can stall your progress, but in combination, which is not uncommon in our EBV community, they can be disastrous to your healing prospect.

That's why I've created four Bonus Modules - to tackle these challenges and help you get back on the path to recovery! These Bonus Modules are in-depth, clinically-verified, and successful protocols that I've been applying with my own clients, helping them move forward. I am happy to share these with you. You can also use these resources while working with your doctors.

In addition, you will learn everything you need to know about testing EBV, and why/how to properly test hidden health issues like stomach acid, iron, thyroid, and pernicious anemia in a special Bonus Module on testing. 

I truly have you covered. No matter where you are on your EBV journey!
"The EBV Recovery Program is the best investment you’ll ever make in your health! 

I worked 30 years in healthcare, both in western and functional medicine. My career ended in my early 50’s when I was diagnosed with severe Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue, Hoshimoto’s Thyroiditis, Breast Cancer and finally Chronic Epstein Barr Virus (CEBV).
It was Dr. Kine’s who discovered that CEBV was likely the underlying cause of all my other health issues and that it stemmed from a childhood case of mononucleosis that reactivated in adulthood and turned chronic. Finally, my lifetime of pain, fatigue, illness and difficulty managing stress all made sense.

Dr. Kasia Kines is among the top functional nutritionists in the world and author of “The Epstein Barr Virus Solution.” Her recovery program is THE master class for anyone suffering from CEBV or any chronic illness. Dr. Kine’s education, experience and cultural background all make her uniquely qualified to help patients suffering with complex illnesses especially related to Epstein Barr Virus. Her ten-week, virtual Recovery Program will give you one-year access to online modules that cover everything from how and why to shop organic, to EBV anti-viral herbs, supplements and teas, to sleep, stress and spiritual healing. Bonus Modules cover things like  co-infections and labs. Plus there’s a Resource Library and lifetime access to the EBV Recovery Facebook Community.

Knowledge gained from the program has empowered me in my health journey and given                  me the tools I need to better manage flares. I’m eating healthier. I’m taking Nutrametrix Isotonix supplements. I feel better, I have more energy and I’m thinking more clearly. I highly recommend Dr. Kine’s EBV Recovery Program. You won’t find a more dedicated and knowledgeable advocate on the subject of clinical nutrition and Epstein Barr Virus.”

- Kitty Gibbs
($297 Value)
A simple way to, once and for, know what your EBV labs mean! I have cataloged all possible permutations of accurate testing and lab interpretation (all evidence-based) so that you can for ever know what your test says! 

If you cannot find a doctor to run a test for you, I will also show you where to test EBV independently and affordably and have your results within 24 hours online!

I will show you other relevant tests that are either not  tested or not tested properly (e.g., hydrochloric acid, pernicious anemia, iron, or thyroid). If your EBV is complicated and stubborn, it may be because of other medical issues: test - do not guess. 
($997 Value)
Co-infections with EBV are quite common (medical literature calls it "transactivation"). For example, SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth) can be caused by EBV attacking your vagus nerve, the nerve that innervates your gut. I also see H. pylori - and while it is tough to get rid of, I have a very successful protocol for it I share with you. Streptococcus (aka strep) and Candida albicans also like to come on a ride. And frequently, you may also have other herpes viruses. 

You will learn clinical pearls and practical shortcuts from years of my experience—how to assess the possible co-infections, best tests to use, how to remedy them, and, more importantly, how to prevent recurrence and create a sustainable and strong internal terrain that is much less susceptible to infections as you move forward. 
($495 value)
Toxic mold can be particularly dangerous if you have EBV. Water damage in the home and workplace is more common than we realize, and yet it may go undetected even for years. Mold can make your EBV resistant to everything you have tried, and until you rule out toxic mold and remediate it, you will struggle trying to heal from EBV. 

Learn the best tests for mold, proper remediation, and best gentle protocols to use. You will also learn the missed connection between mold and wi-fi technology.
($397 Value)
Energy pollution, electromagnetic smog, pollution from Wi-Fi technology, or EMF... 

While research is clear that EMF is detrimental to our health, it can be particularly devastating if you also have EBV. Learn the best practical tips to minimize your EMF pollution and maximize your protection. This is especially important as people with EBV seem much more sensitive to EMF and because an increase in Wi-Fi exposure may reactivate EBV. 
($495 Value)
You may be exposed to heavy metals and not even know it, another reason why you have failed to improve your EBV status despite your efforts. 

Learn common and hidden sources of your heavy metals exposure, best testing, and the most effective protocols. 

In our culture, we like to "fix" things and do it fast, but that can backfire, so you will learn how to clear your heavy metals safely. 
"I was in Dr. Kines’ first “inaugural” EBV group in the Spring of 2019. I was debilitatingly sick, desperate and my healing was slow. I operated at about 20% of my functioning capacity. I’m now at about 70-80%.

Recently, I started a part time job and am sustaining well. I had not worked in over 10 years because of my EBV and co-infections. Dr. Kines was my game changer. With her program, I moved the needle and gained confidence in my body’s ability to function again.

All the material she shared with the EBV group, is ours for life. It will always be there for us when we get stuck or want to see the needle move more. I still go back and review it for extra help.

As an EBV Hero you will make good friends and have the support you need to keep fighting your illness and co-infections. Believe that it can and will happen for you. Celebrate all victories along the way. Big and small, they will start to add up. This is not an illness to fight alone. Join the rest of us EBV Heroes, we can do this together.

- Jane Estes
Let Me Ask You A Question:
If you don't get help for your EBV now, what will happen? 

What will be the effect to your health, to your life, to your family? 

 I know how much EBV has cost you already. And I know you HAVE tried. 

Let me tell you what I see all too often:
  • Time Wasted: You have spent years trying to figure out why you are so sick.
  • ​ Money Lost: ​You have spent thousands of dollars on medical care, testing, and supplements and you are not better.
  • Lack of Support: You've gone to five, ten, or fifty doctors so far—perhaps you even traveled out of state to get help, and are still looking.
  • ​Hard Work with Little Effect: You've worked so hard to change your diet—you have tried it all: paleo, autoimmune paleo, ketogenic, vegan, raw... but at the end of the day, no matter how hard you try, no diet has given you your life back.
  • Medical Disability: You either had to get disability or you are fighting for it now. Or, even worse, you cannot get it because you do not have a clear diagnosis.
  • Career Stalled: You had to take a medical leave from work to try to figure out how to get better.
  • ​ ​Job Lost: You may have already lost your job or you had to walk away—you just were not able to maintain work. I've seen young professionals so disabled that they had to move back in with their parents. 
  • ​Isolation: No one seems to understand the depth of your physical pain, fatigue, your brain fog, anxiety, and fears. You are completely alone in this except for support groups in social media, but you wish you had a friend or community that really "gets" you.
  • ​Loss of Relationships: I have seen the strain EBV puts on spouses, marriages, friendships, and family dynamics. Perhaps EBV has cost you your marriage already.
  • Despondency: You have not heard a message of hope or possible recovery from any doctor; in fact, you may not have found one doctor that believes your chronic EBV is the root cause of your disability or that it can be treated or reversed.
"I wanted to say that the EBV Recovery program was the best spent $1.5K in the past 5 years. The amount of information, support and understanding is nowhere near tons of investment, numerous doctors, healers, practitioners that claimed to help but instead leave more confusion and suffering. And I am finally getting better first time in years! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!"

- Mary Jones

Bottom Line Is...

Only another person with EBV knows what you feel. 

So, again, my question to you is...

If you don't solve this problem now, what's going to happen in the future?

There's one thing I know for sure. It's not going to get better on its own. 
EBV does not stop the damage to you between reactivations!

That's why I'm here to help. 

If you're finally ready to get off this crazy-making and life-destroying roller-coaster, I'm here for you.

I want you to imagine what you could do with your life if you got truly WELL.

Perhaps you would...

... chase your dog in the park,
... have a dinner out with a friend*, 
... excel in your professional life again, 
... go for that dream job,
... go for a run in your favorite spot, 
... or take your children to Disneyland*.  
[*social-distancing/after COVID...]

All without the fear that you will crash!

If you are ready to commit to yourself and take the steps we have designed for you, 

then this Program has been created just for you!
"I highly recommend the EBV Recovery Program. This Program is truly priceless. The abundant amount of knowledge provided is well worth it! After years of searching for answers, Dr.Kines and her Program, has changed my life. 

I started this Program with the feeling of distrust in the medical profession and fearful of the unknowns. I now feel confident that I have the toolkit to utilize for the long-term. Having the support of a well-versed, professional that says “your biggest fan” is EXACTLY who I want in my trust tribe. I feel I was guided to this Program by God and at the most challenging time. 

If on the fence about this signing up for this health investment, you will not be disappointed. Dr. Kines, gives her undivided attention in the video meetings and you are able to ask all your imperative concerns. I cannot express enough how valuable this Program is. I want to shout it from the roof tops! There is hope and Dr.Kines has invested her TIME in pursuing this area, which is a gift to the world. You will be able to learn from others' stories, as well and will be amongst empathetic individuals that support your road to health. If you are suffering and seeking answers, please follow your heart and know Dr. Kines EBV Recovery Program will deliver."

- M. T.
We no longer offer refunds. Let me explain. Not because we want to keep your money but because I want this Program to be a life-changing experience for you. You will become part of the EBV Hero community and in our culture, we do not back out. We do not give up. 
We show up because we believe we can get better. 

Joining a deep clinical and lifestyle program is a serious commitment, especially when you are so ill. You may experience thought patterns of conditioned-self, procrastination, and excuses. You may suddenly feel you cannot commit "just yet" and you need to "time it better" or you will do this "soon." 

Know that your decision to join was out of self-love and trusting the internal "gut feeling", the gentle nudge. That is the real voice. Trust the inner voice that guided you to join us. The truth is that EBV wreaks havoc on your body, and the longer it does, the worse the internal damage. 
There is never a perfect time. Your life is literally on line. This is the time. 

Trust that you have joined us for a bigger reason and that you will get your life back. 
We only move forward, together!
EBV Recovery Program FAQs
How long exactly is the EBV Program?
The Program is on-demand, so length depends on your pace. If you want to follow the suggested pace, there are 8 weekly content modules, so the Program could be covered in 8 weeks. In addition, we have an extra Welcome/Onboarding Module and and extra Graduation/Celebration and What's Next Module, making it the total of 10 weeks. However, since all modules are open immediately for you, you decide on the pace. You have lifetime access, so go at your own speed and retake modules as necessary.
What happens if I miss the monthly live Q&A coaching call? 
You will have access to the library of all previous weekly live Q&A coaching call recordings (video and audio options available) and PDFs I created to accompany most of them. I trust that all your questions will be answered by previous calls!  Questions can also be asked directly in your Kajabi dashboard.
I am following Medical Medium. Will the Program contradict what I am doing?
I am a great fan of the food philosophy behind Medical Medium. One can pick the best of both worlds to customize their journey to finally heal. The more supportive tools that work, the better. The more plants in our diet, the more healing. Nothing in the Program should conflict with what Anthony William suggests. In contrast to Medical Medium, my recommendations are evidence-based. Also, because I am a clinical nutritionist, I also train you how to eat for maximum balance.
Will I have to stop the diet I am on now?
People with chronic EBV have been on various diets to try to recover. If you have done that and you are still not well, then these diets were not fit for EBV in general or for you in particular. While there is not a specific “EBV diet,” there are very specific guidelines that I recommend, based on research and clinical results. That said, all dietary choices will be at each person’s discretion, given the individual likes and dislikes, tolerances and intolerances, and dietary history. You have plenty of opportunities during the Program to iron out individual details, and various diets can be a hot topic discussed during the monthly Q&A, although you will also find that you have a lot of resources in your Program already. On another note, as a clinical nutritionist, I have noticed a dangerous trend of excessive dietary restrictions, especially  in the autoimmune and functional medicine community leading to elimination of whole food groups. These therapeutic diets are meant for a short term only, and such restrictions are not a long term solution and can backfire. Often, if EBV adds to gut issues, as the gut starts to heal during the Program, you may find that you can tolerate more foods!
Is exercise part of the Program? I cannot tolerate any exercise now.
Tolerance to exercise is a measure of recovery from EBV and stabilization. Exercise is not advised during the Program, depending on how the person responds to exercise at this time. Gentle forms of movements are encouraged only if tolerated, e.g., just a short, gentle walk or a stretch, yoga, or tai chi. We often recommend a rebounder depending on tolerance and lymph work. All these resources are part of the Program.
Will the Program still work if I cannot take any supplements or if I can only take a few or at a minimal dosage level?
The right supplements can help dramatically shorten the recovery time and therefore are an integral part of the Program. However, even without the supplements, there is much room for healing with all the other areas of the person’s daily life that are all addressed in detail in the Program and in the Bonus Modules and need to be addressed in order to move forward with chronic EBV. The recovery will just take more time. I  still strongly recommend joining the Program in your case. It will help you.
Can I take the Program if I live outside of the United States?
If you live outside the US, you can still take the Program. We will suggest two global supplement sites we use and trust for our international Program students. You will be accessing your supplements directly from your country via those two websites. You will otherwise enjoy the Program just like all the other students in the group. Remember that you can still ask me questions directly in your Kajabi dashboard. 
Can I take the Program more than once?
If you are asking this question, you are very smart and strategic and you already anticipate—and rightly so—that healing is a process and if you have had EBV for years, it will take a few months to heal. Recovery from EBV requires major changes in the lifestyle and possibly in your life. While I have seen one go at the Program change people's lives, life with its complications and interruptions happens. You may not yet have the stamina to weather the stress and may benefit from more structured support. You may not have enough time each week or are too sick at this time to be able to absorb all the new material. Or you simply want to go over all the projects again and hone in on them even further. The additional benefits of our Program is that you get lifetime access! You will also continue being part of the EBV Facebook community, so you will remain connected and supported. You can decide to jump in again at any time, to keep the momentum and continue improving together. In other words, it is a great idea to take the Program more than once or as needed. Our goal is to support your healing, sustainable recovery, and to help you get your life back!
Is there a refund if I decide this Program is not for me?
We no longer offer a refund. We take your commitment seriously. EBV is a big virus and requires very strategic help. I do not want you to find excuses to withdraw if you initially made the decision to join the Program - I want to help you get to the finish line, which is having your recovery mapped out and your life back. By the same token, I do not want you to jump in if you are not committed: this Program may not be for everyone. This is your Program if you are ready to take action. My main objective is for you to take action and not sit on this material or treat it as just another program that you will start "at some point". Your life is on line.
What if the Program does not help me at all?
As much as I have worked with EBV and as excellent as this Program may be, there cannot be any guarantees in any group program, or even individual work, of a complete resolution of a person’s health challenge, especially with a debilitating and complex chronic illness like EBV. That said, the Program has a very specific design to maximize your success and take out any confusion from your EBV circumstances. We go through all foundational pieces first for 10 weeks. Then, we offer 5 Bonus Modules to address the most common areas that stall the person’s ability to recover from EBV, such as co-infections like SIBO, H-pylori and more, heavy metals, especially mercury, hidden EMF exposure, or toxic mold. After groundwork of 10 modules, if you do not feel you are improving as much as your cohort, the Bonus Modules will help you pinpoint which of the issues presented in them is keeping the virus so strong,  with solutions provided. One way or another, you will improve. The Program will only not help you if you do not have EBV, if you give up completely or do nothing and just sit on this information!
How long can I stay in the Program's private Facebook community?
The EBV Program community is your tribe. This is the first positive and forward-looking EBV community in existence. This is your community of EBV Heroes like you. While it is common for an online program to close access to their FB group after the program's completion, our goal has always been to create a safe and positive space for all the EBV students and alumni and create a community where you are heard and supported and where others understand exactly what you are going through.  We are committed to keeping you in our community as long as you wish. We do not remove anyone from there unless they violate the FB rules of courtesy and respect. 
I already have the book. Do I still need the Program?
Taking the Program after reading the book is a perfect sequence. The Program is so much more than the book. First, there are things I was not able to put into the book, and since the book has been published, I have also made quite a few adjustments and updates to the protocol. Second, while the information in the book is life changing, for most people that are very ill with EBV, reading an expansive 580-page book can be overwhelming and may not translate into action. Third, following a protocol alone can be intimidating. Moreover,  the Program offers a timeline, accountability, goal setting, and encouragement. You will also benefit from an expansive library with cooking and shopping videos, tips on safe traveling with EBV, post-antibiotic support, lymph support, home remedies for EBV, and more. Finally, and most importantly, the Program provides a vibrant community for added inspiration and accountability in the private Facebook group and you can ask me questions directly in our monthly live Q&A coaching calls or in your program dashboard., and I created a step-by-step process where you both learn and apply as you go and where you celebrate each success along the way together. This is a community where you feel heard and understood. The Program is the only positive, forward-moving EBV community with specific tools for healing from EBV in existence. This is a community of EBV Heroes just like you who decided it is time to finally recover from EBV. If you are not sure about your next course of action, we do recommend reading the book first. This will give you clarity whether it is all that you need to get your life back. Many students in our groups have already read the book or own it and that is why they are joining this Program. 
"Thank you so much for your dedication. 
I think a lot of us have not experienced someone fighting for us 
like you are. I am really blown away and so grateful 
for you and the work you’re putting into this Program."
- Rachel
It's time to finally break free from the pain and suffering that EBV has caused! Begin a new life of strength and happiness
Why were some of my complicated clients not getting better even though we did everything right? And why, event hough I trained in the best places in the US and had the tools to help others, no one taught me EBV could be the root cause of some of these challenges?

Mystery no more!

After several years of doing extensive research on existing medical literature on EBV, doing clinical training in virology, and then applying what I knew to my own clients and seeing amazing results in their lives, I am on a mission to reach a million people with my message of hope. 

I hope you will join us in the EBV Recovery Program. May it give you your life back like it did for Rachel, Sue and Niko or kick start your healing into high gear just like it did for Rebecca and so many others before you.

I look forward to meeting you in the Program, welcoming you into our amazing EBV Hero community, and watching you take off! 
I believe in you.

Dr. Kasia Kines
Doctor of Clinical Nutrition
Your greatest fan!
Dr. Kines' Bio:

Dr. Kines is the CEO and Founder of Global Epstein-Barr Virus Institute, a global leader in recovery therapy for chronic EBV, an Amazon best-selling author of the Epstein-Barr Virus Solution, a wellness expert, and a highly respected doctor of clinical nutrition. 

She is a graduate of Bastyr University, the "Harvard of Natural Medicine" and its world-acclaimed graduate nutrition program. She was also in the first ever cohort of doctorate in functional clinical nutrition from Maryland University of Integrative Health. Since 2005, Dr. Kines has built an international reputation as a clinical functional nutritionist, from being sought after by Johns Hopkins University to clients globally, to her ground-breaking book about Epstein-Barr Virus. 

Dr. Kines has developed a proprietary evidence-based methodology and approach to EBV recovery. She developed highly successful EBV Recovery Program so that any person suffering from EBV has an opportunity to heal and recover from this virus.

Dr. Kines also provides clinical professional training in her methodology to other practitioners in her Clinical EBV Training and Certification Program and EBV Practitioner Workshop.

Dr. Kines is a passionate advocate for debunking common misinformation about EBV in medical community and lectures on this topic extensively.  She is on a mission to bring her EBV knowledge and solution to the world globally, so no one needs to suffer needlessly from this misunderstood virus and its complications.